The Dreamliner Safe?
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I don't think there is much benefit in weighing the absolute number of incidents of one aircraft against another.
Without even bothering to check, I'd assume that the 737 (the regular types, not the MAX) would rank quite high on that list. Not because it was an unsafe plane by design, but because it has been around for decades. And built in much higher numbers, and flown in situations and locations which other aircrafts have not seen yet or will never encounter.
It's obviously not the question whether Boing or Airbus or Embraer build safe or unsafe planes per se.
But rather the question if you trust the current top management of the respective manufacturer to take action once issues become known internally. Or if there are internal workflows in place which allow engineers or any worker to address such issues, even when those have the potential to harm the financial performance of the company.
Without even bothering to check, I'd assume that the 737 (the regular types, not the MAX) would rank quite high on that list. Not because it was an unsafe plane by design, but because it has been around for decades. And built in much higher numbers, and flown in situations and locations which other aircrafts have not seen yet or will never encounter.
It's obviously not the question whether Boing or Airbus or Embraer build safe or unsafe planes per se.
But rather the question if you trust the current top management of the respective manufacturer to take action once issues become known internally. Or if there are internal workflows in place which allow engineers or any worker to address such issues, even when those have the potential to harm the financial performance of the company.
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Cowboy, excellent point. At the moment I am mentally spent trying to get information on safety factors. Not sure I am up to do further research along the lines you suggested. Anyone with such perspective or advice please let me know.
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This is what air traffic looks like today:
https://flightaware.com/live/
You can zoom in and identify each flight by airline, aircraft type , etc.
Sign up for basic (free) membership and you can get flight info for the past three months.
https://flightaware.com/live/
You can zoom in and identify each flight by airline, aircraft type , etc.
Sign up for basic (free) membership and you can get flight info for the past three months.
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Everyone has their own personal preferences / prejudices - some will only fly Delta, some don't care which airline, some prefer United (WHY?? )
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Not really. I will admit that even after years of flying when I hear a peculiar or unexpected noise I might perk up a bit. I have even flown on a Russian made aircraft when in Cost Rica. I am booking this trip for son, daughter-in-law and granddaughter who will be flying to Athens. I have already bought tickets for myself, my daughter and two grandson from DEN to LHR and return on British Air. Have flown this route a number of times. I guess I got concerned when seeing some negatives about the Dreamliner. Of course when booking for family one wants to make sure that you are providing then with the best possible option and when it comes to flying that is safety. Yet, being logical one also knows that there is no perfect action. Anything can happen on any airline it's just about making the best decision. I am giving them the various flight options which include British Air flights as well as American Airlines and will also send the posts above so they can decide.
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I would fly AA or BA or UA or DL or any major US or European airline. Or not so major ones - I think I would be happy on a Norwegian 787 in their premium seat.
Aircraft type and seating options matter to me. If my choice was between a 787 or 777-300ER then it would be a toss-up. I would easily choose one of those over any 747 or 767 or other 777 versions.
Aircraft type and seating options matter to me. If my choice was between a 787 or 777-300ER then it would be a toss-up. I would easily choose one of those over any 747 or 767 or other 777 versions.
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I have no issues with flying on the Dreamliner. We live near Seattle and many of our friends are very senior and/or engineers at Boeing and have been for 30+ years. I know their integrity. Yes, every company has idiots, and Boeing is no exception, but if they will let their families fly on a specific plane, then I trust that, FWIW.
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And that's why they make chocolate AND vanilla ice cream, janisj. For myself, I abandoned AA after blatantly homophobic practices in the 1990's along with horrid customer service. Successfully avoided them for years but when the UA/CO merger was such a cluster and AA was poaching top tier elites I gave them a second chance. Soon thereafter it became apparent they had not really changed their culture, and while many of their inflight staff were great, the overall company just plain sucks and their equipment is abysmal - old, worn, poorly configured and maintained. The paint job and new logo is purely superficial. Even friends who work for AA agree when I say I avoid them at all costs.
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A hissy fit notwithstanding:
https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/fleet-age.htm
https://thepointsguy.com/news/passen...ntenance-base/
https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/fleet-age.htm
https://thepointsguy.com/news/passen...ntenance-base/
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