RyanAir REALLY Charging for the Toilets!!!
Jan 18th, 2010, 09:34 AM
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Jan 18th, 2010, 10:25 AM
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Is TP included in the pay toilets or do you have to bring your own?
and on such typically short flights i guess folks can advance pee or ....
but still as a business move one of the all-time blunders IMO
and on such typically short flights i guess folks can advance pee or ....
but still as a business move one of the all-time blunders IMO
Jan 18th, 2010, 10:39 AM
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The mushrooming fees for this and that and the other are why I no longer recommend Ryanair to people needing budget flights in Europe. These days there are loads of other super-budget airlines to use instead.
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Jan 18th, 2010, 11:13 AM
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The Plastic Paddy website referred to here has missed a crucial paragraph from the Irish Times story it claims to have got its story from:
<i> "One industry expert cast doubt on the proposals. Ryanair could install coin-operated locks on its toilet doors fairly simply, he said, but replacing two of each aircraft’s three toilets with seats would be very expensive. Boeing “would have to embark on a huge type-certification exercise” to prove that the remodelled aircraft could still be evacuated within two minutes, and, combined with the complexities of re-engineering each 737, the cost could amount to “between €250,000 and €500,000” per plane </i>
Michael O'Leary, having both more of a sense of humour and far, far more financial acumen than Plastic Paddies are capable of, may not be champing at his racehorse's bit to spend €500,000 a plane.
But he'd undoubtedly sanction a minion giving an interview the gullible Americans will fall for, and the new raft of free publicity he'll get as a result.
<i> "One industry expert cast doubt on the proposals. Ryanair could install coin-operated locks on its toilet doors fairly simply, he said, but replacing two of each aircraft’s three toilets with seats would be very expensive. Boeing “would have to embark on a huge type-certification exercise” to prove that the remodelled aircraft could still be evacuated within two minutes, and, combined with the complexities of re-engineering each 737, the cost could amount to “between €250,000 and €500,000” per plane </i>
Michael O'Leary, having both more of a sense of humour and far, far more financial acumen than Plastic Paddies are capable of, may not be champing at his racehorse's bit to spend €500,000 a plane.
But he'd undoubtedly sanction a minion giving an interview the gullible Americans will fall for, and the new raft of free publicity he'll get as a result.
Jan 18th, 2010, 11:45 AM
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Flanner.
Your assumptions are spot on. I saw an interview with michael o leary on RTE around the middle of the year. He said that claiming to charge for using the toilet had generated millions of Euros of free publicity. He also claimed that he had been advised that because he provides food and drink for a charge, then he has to provide free toilets. He also stated that he had built Ryanair into the biggest airline in Europe by following the business strategy of Southwest in America
Your assumptions are spot on. I saw an interview with michael o leary on RTE around the middle of the year. He said that claiming to charge for using the toilet had generated millions of Euros of free publicity. He also claimed that he had been advised that because he provides food and drink for a charge, then he has to provide free toilets. He also stated that he had built Ryanair into the biggest airline in Europe by following the business strategy of Southwest in America
Jan 18th, 2010, 12:41 PM
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eyelids wrote: "He also stated that he had built Ryanair into the biggest airline in Europe by following the business strategy of Southwest in America"
He frequently says that. This thread http://www.fodors.com/community/fodo...t-airlines.cfm persuades me that he did not follow it very closely.
He frequently says that. This thread http://www.fodors.com/community/fodo...t-airlines.cfm persuades me that he did not follow it very closely.
Feb 9th, 2010, 08:20 AM
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An update, from TODAY'S IrishTimes.com:
"Meanwhile, O’Leary has said that charging passengers to use toilets aboard his company’s aircraft is “absolutely” still on the agenda but that the plan is being resisted by Boeing, which supplies the airline’s planes, and by the US aviation regulator, which would have to certify any changes to their airframes.
Part of Ryanair’s plan would involve the expensive and complicated installation of an extra row of seats in place of the toilets at the rear of each aircraft, leaving a single toilet at the front. Ryanair says the Federal Aviation Administration is concerned the extra passengers could not be evacuated safely.
If the FAA agreed to the changes, the airline would then need approval from the European Aviation Safety Agency, according to the Irish Aviation Authority."
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"Meanwhile, O’Leary has said that charging passengers to use toilets aboard his company’s aircraft is “absolutely” still on the agenda but that the plan is being resisted by Boeing, which supplies the airline’s planes, and by the US aviation regulator, which would have to certify any changes to their airframes.
Part of Ryanair’s plan would involve the expensive and complicated installation of an extra row of seats in place of the toilets at the rear of each aircraft, leaving a single toilet at the front. Ryanair says the Federal Aviation Administration is concerned the extra passengers could not be evacuated safely.
If the FAA agreed to the changes, the airline would then need approval from the European Aviation Safety Agency, according to the Irish Aviation Authority."
????Bob
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:14 AM
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"the plan is being resisted by Boeing,"
Is O'Leary-speak for:
"I'm slowly realising this is a really crap idea commercially, because it'd cost us more to modify the planes than we'd ever make back.
"But in my life, everything's always someone else's fault. So I'll blame Boeing. The punters will believe it, because they believe everything I say"
Anyone else agree this loud-mouthed perpetial whinger is getting very, very, close to his Ceausescu moment?
Is O'Leary-speak for:
"I'm slowly realising this is a really crap idea commercially, because it'd cost us more to modify the planes than we'd ever make back.
"But in my life, everything's always someone else's fault. So I'll blame Boeing. The punters will believe it, because they believe everything I say"
Anyone else agree this loud-mouthed perpetial whinger is getting very, very, close to his Ceausescu moment?
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:51 AM
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"this is a really crap idea commercially"
Is he saying, there will be different charges for #1 and #2? How does he propose to figure out what my business was? By installing smell detectors next to smoke detectors?
Is he saying, there will be different charges for #1 and #2? How does he propose to figure out what my business was? By installing smell detectors next to smoke detectors?
Apr 6th, 2010, 09:07 AM
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Official confirmation of the charges (well it's the Daily Mail)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar....html?ITO=1490
So will you have to prebook loo use? Will you be charged extra if you pee too much or drop one too many? Will there be a maximum size of a number 2? And will it have to fit in the overhead lockers?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar....html?ITO=1490
So will you have to prebook loo use? Will you be charged extra if you pee too much or drop one too many? Will there be a maximum size of a number 2? And will it have to fit in the overhead lockers?
