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Old Jan 6th, 2010, 11:24 AM
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Terni, Italy day trips

We will be in Terni (actually Arrone) for 2 weeks in early March...with a car. Any ideas for daytrips?
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Old Jan 6th, 2010, 11:49 AM
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Orvieto, Spoleto, Perugia, Montepulciano. There are lots of great day trips in that area.
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Old Jan 6th, 2010, 01:20 PM
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I trust you have a good Umbria guide book.
I would add Assisi, Bevagna, Montefalco, and Cortona to the above.
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What do you like to do?

For me, I would make a beeline to Amitrice in Lazio, the home of the exquisite pasta, Bucatini d'Amitriciana. Do you care about things like that?

Do you really care about art and architecture? If not, skip the art cities in favor of great nature experiences in the Val di Nera or the Parco Nazionale di Gran Sasso.

However, if you love gorgeous small Italian towns, tourist-free, take advantage of your position to visit Ascoli Piceno in le Marche. (You should also go there if you are a gourmet or a shoe shopping freak).

Do you care about wine? Montefalco and Montefiascone. They also have great views.

Do you like to get off the beaten track? Instead of heading into the tourist circles of Umbria and Tuscany, head into Lazio or Abruzzo. Do you have any interest in seeing the recent earthquake site of L'Aquila? They could use your help.

Do you care about Etruscans and the Roman imperium? Civita Castellana in Lazio is a marvelous, fascinating Etruscan city with a great tiny museum, and the Roman via Flaminia runs right through it.

Do you like weird things. The "monster park" in Bomarzo (Lazio) is within reach of Arrone.

You either want to see the famous sites and be with the other tourists or have a unique adventure. In early March, you'll should stick to lower elevations, and generally head south instead of north if you are out exploring. But if you want to get off the beaten track, it's hard to find people on Fodor's message board who can help you.

If you want to see the famous sites, but a guidebook. It outlines everything for you, and has helpful information about opening times, parking, how to buy tix, etc.
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And here is a fantastic website for getting to know what beautiful places will be right at your doorstep, with interactive maps and good descriptions of towns

http://www.bellaumbria.net/Ternano/itinerari_eng.htm
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"But if you wawnt to get off the beaten track, it's hard to find people on Fodor's message board who can help you."

New name but same old comments, lol, posted by someone who has lived in Italy for about three years and considers herself the great expert.
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And "LoveItaly" is constantly here on Fodor's to blow up a thread and get it off track with nasty comments about other posters-- instead of answering the original question posted by a traveler.

LoveItaly, instead of the same old same old from you, why not answer outjetboat? Do you even know where Arrone is? As a longtime Fodor's poster, what personal experience do you have of that area that goes beyond getting a guidebook, like I recommended?
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ourjetboat - You have to ignore some comments as there are posters that seem to think if you see a tourist your trip is ruined and that you must spend your time staring at nothing, but landscape.

>>Do you like to get off the beaten track? Instead of heading into the tourist circles of Umbria and Tuscany, head into Lazio or Abruzzo<<<

There are plenty of trips in Umbria to keep you busy for more than two weeks. No need to drive long distances.
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"You either want to see the famous sites and be with the other tourists or have a unique adventure." Unique adventures aren't possible at famous sites? Wow. What a bizarre comment.

PS, steps, I would venture to say LoveItaly has seen more of Italy than you have. And spent more time there.
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ourjetboat, when you get to Arrone (or Terni), ask the locals about visiting Cascata delle Marmore. March may be too early in the year to enjoy the falls, but I see from the website that the site is open 7 days a week starting in March so perhaps that means it's a good time.

http://www.marmorefalls.it/indexen_GB.php

The area between Arrone and Spoleto is beautiful. You can take SS3 one direction and SR209 the other. I think I preferred SR209 because of all the little towns along the way.

I especially love the scenery north from Spoleto toward Bastardo and west toward Acquasparta. Acquasparta, to me, wasn't worth a stop, but I very much liked Todi about 30 minutes away.

Cortona would be too far for me for a day trip (2 hours). Ditto Gubbio which may be my favorite Umbrian town. But I wouldn't miss Assisi, even though it's a "famous site" popular with most tourists.
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Thanks gang, You got her off of my back for a minute.
Just bizzare !
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Jean,

I bet you'd lose that bet bigtime. In fact, I'm sure of it.

But what difference does it make?

Why don't people want to stick to helping the original poster?

Several of us -- including both me and bobtheparanoidnavigator-- have indicated guidebooks may be the most useful way for him or her to organize the daytrips.

UNLESS he or she would like to get beyond the guidebook answers. In which case, why not also attack Jean for pointing out Bob is wrong in suggesting Cortona as a day trip? Did bob even notice I made no mention of anything he posted about? And why is talking about Acquasparta okay when mentioning Ascoli Piceno isn't? Talk about bizarre.

Arrone is "in Umbria", sure. But it is so far south in Umbria that it's really quite limiting to keep directing the poster to the tourist sites of Umbria.

I really have nothing against people not wanting to miss the most famous tourist sights -- but can't you admit an up-to-date guidebook is a better guide than Fodor's posters who only intermittently visit Italy for people who want to see the tourist sites?

And for goodness sakes, if bob or loveItaly has anything to offer beyond the usual guidebook, I am NOT stopping them from posting it. I am eager to see it.
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kybourbon,

if you google up Arrone, you will get a google map that will show where it is. Driving into Lazio and Abruzzo would not be driving "long distances". It's really not fair to a poster who'll be paying for a trip to mislead them like that. I suggested they check out places closer to Arrone than Assisi.
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ourjetboat,

The other thing you need to know about Fodor's posters is that they believe you should go to bed by 10pm.
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>>bobthenavigator on Jan 6, 10 at 10:39pm
Thanks gang, You got her off of my back for a minute.
Just bizzare !<<<

You're welcome and yes, it is very bizzare (not to mention downright odd). And isn't it cute that she is into name calling now?

>>>but can't you admit an up-to-date guidebook is a better guide than Fodor's posters who only intermittently visit Italy for people who want to see the tourist sites?<<<

Guidebooks are out-of-date by the time they hit the store shelf which is the reason Fodor's forums have been so popular for 13 years. And yes, we know you are into Google. It's quite clear.
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I don't know why anyone thinks I was on "bob's back". I was agreeing with him! This poster needs a guidebook -- but not just to Umbria, given his destination, but he really could use one for Lazio, Abruzzo and Le Marche.

kybourbon,

I don't know what you've got against Google, but why are you refusing to look up where this poster is going? He's not going anywhere near Montepulciano, where you want to send him. If you are concerned he not take "longish drives", why are you steering him away from the immediate neighborhood of Lazio or Abruzzo in favor of Tuscany????

Truth is, some people here just like to stink up threads once they seen I've posted.
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ourjetboat,

I don't know if you are ever going to see this thread get back to you, but here are some things that are worth thinking about as you plan your trip and use the internet to do so:

A good up-to-date guidebook is good for sightseeing, because it has all the practical information you need in one place, in packable form. If you are eager to spend your two weeks in Arrone sightseeing, guidebooks really are the best source of information, still.

If you don't want to spend your two weeks sightseeing, message boards can be helpful, even though most message boards cater to people who travel to do sightseeing almost exclusively. Still, you occasionally run across people interested in other experiences of Italy. You'll get more help finding out what else there is do in the area of Arrone other than sightsee if you talk more about the things you like to do. (Why does your screen name suggest to me you might want to know about boating activities on the River Nera?)

http://www.ditt.it/eng/promozione_sport_natura.htm

Last but not least, sightseeing can be rendered almost meaningless or downright unpleasant if the sights you traveled so far to see are so crowded you can barely see them or reflect upon them. The art treasures of Assisi are stupendous -- but so are the crowds of people jamming in to see them. That is less true during the time frame you are going, but you still might want to pay attention to how you approach Assisi if you know you have negative reactions to swarms of tourists. Here is how another poster named Franco put it:

"Assisi – unfortunately, the only spot in Umbria already spoiled by tourists and notably by pilgrims!!!)... Assisi, of course, has the biggest artistic treasure: the Basilica di S. Francesco, better than each and every museum on medieval Italian painting – certainly one of the most beautiful (and most important, artistically) churches on earth. Overcrowded or not, I feel the need to return every time when being in Umbria. But it’s also worth touring the countryside, apart from the big and important sights. Many of those totally forgotten medieval towns/villages are waiting for you; just think how rewarding it is to discover the mummified corpse of Beato (i.e. blessed) Ugolino in the crypt of the church of Gualdo Cattaneo,...."

Although people jump on me for providing Google links, here is a link to Franco's thread about Umbria -- no substitute for a guidebook if you want to go sightseeing, but some great pointers about getting beyond the standard tourist itinerary

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...n-delights.cfm
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poor outjetboat.

s/he must wonder if s/he's inadvertantly wandered into a war zone.

personally, i think that you have all come up with some good ideas for the OP to mull over. can't you all make up and be friends and play like nice children?
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Fodor "friends" Thank you all very much for the information you have provided...looking forward to browsing thru it over a nice glass of wine this evening!! Would second the opinion about playing like nice children..but am very thankful for all the contributions.
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>>>stepsbeyond on Jan 7, 10 at 9:44am
I don't know why anyone thinks I was on "bob's back". <<<

Could it be because you posted:
>>>bobtheparanoidnavigator--<<<

>>>Truth is, some people here just like to stink up threads once they seen I've posted.<<<

I think you manage that on your own.

ourjetboat - Sorry, but this poster goes from thread to thread with these attacks (especially attacking bob, but others as well such as the attack on LI above), argues how no one else knows anything and only her suggestions could possibly be worth considering. Just so you know, Bobthenavigator actually plans professional itineraries for people.

As for day trips, most people consider keeping the driving time under 2 hours in any direction. That's what I based my suggestions on and I'm sure Bob took that into consideration as well. Some of the more obscure suggestions will take much longer as they involve winding backroads and in March the weather may be iffy.

>>>The art treasures of Assisi are stupendous -- but so are the crowds of people jamming in to see them. That is less true during the time frame you are going, but you still might want to pay attention to how you approach Assisi if you know you have negative reactions to swarms of tourists. <<<

I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to mean (a bit rambly), but I've been in Assisi in June and at Easter and not encountered "crowds of people jamming in to see" things. In fact, it wasn't crowded at all.
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