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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 03:57 PM
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Two moms travelling with 2 teenage daughters on a mom-daughter excursion. Is it do-able to go from Venice (3 days) to Florence (3 days) to Rome (4 days) without making their life two crazy. Plan on using the train to each city. Also...best places to stay (reasonable $$$) would be greatly appreciated. Ciao e tante grazie!
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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 04:09 PM
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"reasonable $$$" ??

There is an irony here in that "$$$" is often used in tour books to mean the most expensvie hotels. I realize that you mean it as a synonym for "rates" - - but what does "reasonable" mean? To the Trump family? To Vietnamese factory workers?

Thr bottom quartile? probably about 80 euros (at least for Venice and Rome) for a double per night - - might have a bathroom down the hall. The next quartile? under 150 euros, perhaps. The median would start at 150 euros and go up to the top quartile (say... over 250 euros per night).

You'll need to clarify. Or do some browsing at www.venere.com and/or its little sister website www.eurocheapo.com

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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 04:15 PM
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Do you want to stay in the same room as your daughter or seperate? Like Rex said we have to know what reasonable means to you.
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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 04:18 PM
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I would suggest two rooms for this group, though. Whether the moms stay together, and the girls together, or each mother-daughter pair together, would be something else to decide.
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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 04:38 PM
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The time frame for each place is great and very doable -- short enough to keep them from getting too bored and long enough to get a taste of each city. Train is great down time.

You could do a quad room, but remember that's four women and one bathroom, not a pretty sight! That alone would cause the most anxiety and fighting to me! Especially since the bathrooms can be tiny, and teenage girls tend to bring a LOT of toiletries (I've travelled with one -- her "personal" bag was almost the same size as her regular suitcase!). So, likewise, two rooms, or adjoining rooms would be best.

By $$$ I think Bin was using that instead of the word "dollar", Rex. Wouldn't call it ironic, but perhaps confusing to some people who may be a bit more linear than others, so it was a good point, Rex.

If you can give us an idea of what you envision in terms of cost, I'm sure the posters can give you a lot of great suggestions.
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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 05:38 PM
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I think your trip plans can work quite well. It will be a busy trip, but you should have a great time.

What time of year will you be travelling? There are many posts here regarding places to stay in Venice, Florence and Rome -- you can do a search here to help get you started. Once you have narrowed down hotel budget somewhat (and decided on 2 rooms versus 1 room for 4 people) you'll be able to get lots of opinions here.

Happy planning!
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Old Feb 3rd, 2006, 06:40 PM
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Our family (including teen son and pre-teen daughter)spent a couple of nights at Pensione Accademia near the Accademia Gallery in Venice. We wished we could have spent a week at this lovely hotel and in beautiful Venice. Some might find it too far off from the main sights but I loved walking through the narrow streets to get to the piazza and Rialto. Can't help you with the transportation part.
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Old Feb 4th, 2006, 05:02 AM
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Looks like a nice visit, B.

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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 05:56 PM
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apologies...i realize my error in stating.."reasonable". What we'd like to do is find a quad room (2 double beds would be great)....any suggestions...thanks for the input...
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 05:59 PM
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one more note...Rex...I did mean $$$ as a substitute for 'dollars' not really a price guide. appreciate your input...
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BIN, the point is that you still haven't said how much you want to spend per night. If you will give that information, you will get a lot more useful suggestions.
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If you are on a tightish budget, consider renting an apartment for the extra space you will get.

Depending what time of year you are travelling, you can rent from as few as 3 days/nights. Often much cheaper than a hotel, for example a 2-bedroom apartment (sleeping up to 6 with a double sofa bed as well) just off the Campo dei Fiori in Rome is 150 euros a night based on 4 persons staying, 3 nights minimum rental. I also looked at quad rooms and found nothing half as nice for that price.
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 05:31 AM
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This is a nice trip. We've satyed in these quads:
Venice 3* - Hotel Flora, 1 large room with 1.5 bathrooms, 1 double and 2 single beds. This is a quiet charming hotel with a nice garden near San Marco.
Florence 2* - Hotel Casci, this a a great value place. Clean and quiet and run by lovely people that make you feel at home, even for a short stay. We had 1 large room, also with a double and 2 single bed.
Rome 3* - Santa Chiara, also a very nice hotel located behind the pantheon. We had a 2 room wuite with 1 bathroom and a smal fridge.

All these places were in great location and had very nice breakfasts. In all cases we booked directly with the hotel.
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 06:36 AM
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I hope this information is helpful for you as I too was a mom traveling with teenagers.

Last summer I traveled in Europe with my two teenage boys (13 &17). In Rome we needed a quad room because my brother was joining us there. After a tremendous amount of research on this website and tripadvisor, I came across a gem of a hotel in Rome: the Albergo Cesàri. Email: [email protected]
www.albergocesari.it

I must confess that I have Four Seasons/Ritz Carlton taste but rarely can afford the prices. The Albergo Cesari lived up to my expectations. The location is fantastic, two blocks on a pedestrian street from the Panthaloen. The Colesieum was a 15 minute walk. The good news is that they have quads, extremely quiet rooms (which is essential in Rome and air conditioning-totally necesssary in the suumer). I think the hotel was extremely reasonable for the price and especially the location. Their website has a good map that outlines their proximity to things.

We paid about 195 euros for the quad, which I thought was a deal! Remember that was the high season of July.

This hotel will be about a 10 minute cab ride from T. Station. Do not try and walk or take a bus.

I also recommend this location for your daughters because it is within walking distance to the high end shopping areas -10 minute walk. The evening hours were really fun- walking around the street to get gelatto. We felt safe and it was great fun!

Good luck. I hope this information was helpful. As mentioned I was obsessed with researching the perfect location and hotel for our time in Rome and I think I hit a gold mine with our hotel!
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 06:44 AM
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One last thing-
you can book directly with the hotel and prices include a good breakfast.

I recommend that you cross check comments on this site with tripadvisor- it was helpful to me to compare comments. I selected the Albergo Cesari because folks on both sites raved about the location.

Good luck!
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 06:48 AM
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Also keep in mind when looking into hotels, many do not list quads on their own websites or on booking sites, but may have 1 or 2 such rooms. Email any hotels you are interested in directly. Ask what kind of accommodations they have for 4. Sometimes they will have some kind of 'family' room, and sometimes they recommend 2 rooms.
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 08:40 AM
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My girlfriend and I did a similar trip last June with our 2 17 year old daughters. One thing to point out from our experience was that if the girls had their choice, they would have shopped the whole time. I'd limit the tours and if they're over 16, I'd leave some time for them to wander by themselves at least in Venice and Florence. Florence was great for them because there were so many young people around and in the evening there was all kinds of street entertainment to keep them amused. They tell us that the highlights of the trip were their times exploring on their own. One of their favorite things was a haircut in Venice. Made them feel very European. We did everything by train and walked until we dropped but they loved the non-structured times the best. Have a great time.
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 08:47 AM
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Forgot to mention that we were in Europe longer but that the easiest time we had was in the apartments. We all needed a little space from each other and 4 in a room was really crowded. We did a mixture of 2 rooms, quads, and apts. Try www.europeby.com They have everything and the best pictures. Venice was Antico Panada(2 rms). Florence was a lovely apt that literally looked out on the Duomo (Palazzo Gamba). We found that the more centrally located, the more freedom we could give the girls and the more relaxed they were.
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Old Feb 16th, 2006, 09:42 AM
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wanted to extend my thanks for the many suggestions...greatly appreciated..especially AnnieGoo and cjtray! We leave May 18 to June 3 (taking the girls out of school to hopefully avoid the masses...)
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While the listing is general, it might give you some idea of prices:

http://www.turismovenezia.it/eng/dynalay.asp?PAGINA=437
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